Relationships
Tina's Friends Constantly Insult Her
12/20/2011 10:00:14 PM
Dear Dr. Archer,
I have two best friends whom I like very much, but lately I've been facing issues with them. They keep finding fault with everything I do! Since childhood I've been a vegetarian, but for the past year they've been forcing me to eat non-vegetarian. I have told them I hate non-vegetarian foods, but they don't understand.
 
They criticize how I dress. I consider my sense of dress average -- not too bad and not too good, but they keep telling me I don't know how to choose my clothes. One of them criticizes my taste for music, saying I don't have taste. I listen to the music because it makes me feel good and don't understand why they have to be judgmental about it.
 
One of them never visits my home, giving me lame excuses, so I visit her often. I don't know how to express my anger and frustrations because I don't want to hurt them. For each and everything that they say, they say they're concerned about me and are telling me for my own good. 
 
One friend is married and has a child. The other raised two children, so they know how to take care of children. I've never been around children in my life, so they find fault that I don't know how to care for children. 
 
I find they're criticizing me even when I'm not at fault. A few months back I couldn't control my emotions and stopped talking to them, but even that became a big issue. One insulted me indirectly on a social networking site and told me I ditched her after being friends since childhood days.
 
I feel they're dominating, but according to them they're right because they're perfect. I cannot let go of them because at times they supported me financially and mentally. When I tried moving out of their lives, they started blaming me.

I just don't know how to deal with this anymore. I feel it's affecting me in a psychological way. What should I do?
Tina
 
Dear Tina,
It's time to realize that these "friends" are not friends. This is not how friends treat each other, Tina. They accept each other; differences and faults included. Trust me, no one is perfect -- not me, not you and certainly not them. 
 
Tina, these girls are not telling you these things for your own good. Telling you that you have something between your teeth, or that your shirt has a stain is for your own good. Criticizing everything that makes you unique is just insulting and mean-spirited. 

I think perhaps there could be jealousy at work here. Check out "Jealousy Is Killing My Friendships" to see an example of what I mean.
 
Anyway,  it's time to talk to these girls one at a time, this is important. Explain clearly your issues and explain what will be necessary for the friendships to continue. No more insults, you like your dress, your music and your food, period.

If they cannot respect your differences, then they're really not your friends. A friend builds up and supports, she does not insult and tear down. Read "How Can A Friend Help Someone Suicidal?" to get an idea of what a real friend is all about.
 
If they don't like it, that's their choice. They may have helped you out before, but they're not doing so now, and today is what counts, not yesterday. I hope this works, who knows? Just make sure if they don’t follow through with your request that you leave them behind.
 
Regardless of the outcome, I suggest you put yourself out there and meet some new friends. Talk to the girls at work or school that you get along with. Ask if they want to do something together, and possibly bring another friend. This will expand your circle and possibly develop into a lasting friendship or two. 
 
Joining a club, group or learning or furthering a hobby will help you meet others with whom you have something in common. Get their contact information so you can contact them later, and give them yours. Then follow up.
 
Please, Tina, above all, treat your individuality with respect. Your uniqueness should be valued. In fact, your letter reflects the title of my new book, 'Better Than Normal: How What Makes You Different Can Make You Exceptional', (Random House, March 2012). 

You are unique, and you are exceptional. Do not let others who are unhappy and jealous bring you down. Best of luck to you!
Dr. Archer
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18 Comments
12/21/2011 9:12:37 AM
Unless you have underweight or health problems such as recurring stomach problems, they have no reason to tell you what to eat. Unless you have reason to believe you are letting yourself go and they might be trying to keep you from slipping into slovenliness, they are just being snarky talking about your clothes. They probably don't want to come over because it's easier for them not to have to port the kids arouond. That's no excuse, in my opinion, but I am living with that as well with one of my friends. You know, my house isn't babyproof and I won't allow the toddler to ram into my antiques. The way I was raised, I was taught not to touch things, but today people seem to feel that's punitive. I'm having trouble envisioning two active mothers being fashion plates since they're usually too busy.

I wonder if the central issue isn't that they want to use you for babysitting or are now jealous of your relatively carefree lifestyle now that they both have children. Nothing drives old female friendships into extinction than when one has children and the other has not. Sometimes mothers get a sense of entitlement and expect you to envy them or expect you to help with childcare or it makes them mad when you invite them somewhere and they can't go. If you hang around any childfree communities online, you'll see in a hurry that this is an epidemic problem and that a certain contingent get very snarky about anyone who doesn't have children and try to minimize their worth actively, whether it be friends or siblings.

Either way, you may have liked them in the past, but you certainly don't like THIS and need to not encourage them by agreeing to spend time around them when they're being this way. Put up a boundary. If one can be nice long enough to have a quick lunch but can't sustain it long enough for shopping, then limit your activities to short one. If one can't be nice at all, you don't need her anymore. Maybe if you refuse to be their punching bag on which they displace their own frustrations that have nothing to do with you, they'll eventually miss you for who you are.
Sue
12/21/2011 3:15:27 PM
Great advice Doc! Tina, I totally agree with him...these girls are NOT your friends! I don't have many friends but I do know that true friends don't diss one another. It sounds like they are jealous of you so they're basically bullying you. Who cares what kind of music you listen to or how you dress as long as you are happy with the way you are. That is all that matters. If you can, I would sit down with these so called friends and let them know how you feel. If they berate you again, then say ta-ta ladies! I wish you the best Tina as I know life in general is difficult. You will find that true friends won't treat you the way these ladies are.
12/21/2011 6:47:40 PM
Tina, nobody keeps friends from childhood or from nursery school all the way till adulthood. You don;t need to keep the same friends. Obviously they can no longer fit your lifestyle. They have kids, and are baby-bound. You are not. They dress extravagantly. You dress more plainly. They like heavy metal for example. You hate it and rather listen to Mozart. You must continue to be yourself. You don't need these people.

As for your quest, regarding feeling owing back to them. Learn the news that noone offered you anything for free. What they oferred you, you earnt it. By your kindness to them and by your own behavior to them. (I learnt this from my 'cougar'... long story...). So, get moving, there will be new friends, who need you for being who you are, not for critising you in order to make themselves feel better.
DDA
12/23/2011 11:35:24 PM
Well thought out and good points, Lola.
DDA
12/23/2011 11:36:00 PM
Correct, Sue.
DDA
12/23/2011 11:36:29 PM
Some friendships last a lifetime, Marcia. I speak from experience on that.
12/24/2011 4:13:58 AM
Tina,
Dr Archer is spot on with his advice to you. I went through the same crisis when i was like 19, and was involved in a head on collision and quickly learned who my real friends were. I actually saw several friends drive past the accident when i was trapped inside the car waiting for someone to get me out. It ended up being my Longtime childhood friend Nancy who stopped, that i have known for 47 years now. I had several friends that had children and i became a aunt to those children and helped raise them too along side my single mother friends. That is what true friends do for each other. You Don't need friends who leaving you feeling bad. My daughter went through that problem last year. Her Best friend since 7th Grade had been holding her back from what she needed to do for herself, when she should have been looking for work, she became the emotional support for this friend for years, and basically did the same thing your friends did, talked down to her because she moved on and started working and establishing her independence. Her friend is dependent on her mom for financially everything since she is a full time student 4.0 gpa and they have financial independence. Her friend has never worked a real job yet at all. You can not buy respect or Love with money. No matter how you look at it. remember to be true to yourself over anyone Tina praying for you too. Merry Christmas.
12/24/2011 1:37:21 PM
It's true some old friendships fade or end abruptly as someone gets married and/or has children. Jealous husbands who don't want their wives out of their sight are a prime reason. They're the same husband who won't agree to babysit for a night to give the wife a night out. That was certainly what caused one very close old friend to leave. He didn't even want me seeing her once a year when I was in town for the holidays and would get good and drunk before I showed up. She told me he wasn't always like that, so obviously it was just a way to keep her from going somewhere with me. Because then is she going to leave the kids with him? I'm still pissed about that because she and I were very good friends and lived together at times.

The other old friend (17 years) I lost because she turned into the movie "Single White Female" on me. It culminated in her trying to move in on the guy I was in love with but was in the second week of not seeing after a talk, a temporary breakup, as I saw it, based on history. In retrospect, I remember times she was literally trying to become me, found clothes that disappeared, found her trying on my shoes, and after the big incident, found out from my male acquaintances that she was calling them ALL (she lived with me, had access to my black book), which may account for why some of them suddenly wanted to spend time with me about then (talked about that in another post). I made myself wait out a six-week cooling off period (during which I literally wanted to throw her down the stairs), staying away from our apartment a lot, to be sure I was thinking rationally before I kicked her out of my life. At the end of the wait, we had a long talk, and she admitted she was basically trying to assume my identity. I basically told her she needed to find her own identity and to get out and stay out.

Obviously, I wasn't pleased with the man involved either, and I carry issues about it to this day, but in the end, she was my friend for 17 years and knew me inside and out, and apparently didn't mind doing something she knew would kill me (she wanted me to know it happened, woke me up to let me know). He had only dated me four months and really didn't know what a big deal it was for me. He had married his high school sweetheart and was in the middle of divorce at that time. Afterwards, his male friends told him what a BAAAD thing he had done, and I think even then it took it a couple of years to sink in how much it hurt me to lose him and my best friend at the same time. By then I was working in the same office as him and he apologized one night when we were both at a club with other dates. I would end up working with him daily for 10 years, and so we have maintained a friendship, though working with him led to a major depression brought on when I lost that job after 10 years. Still, we're friends 30 years later, though I avoid face-to-face because he's married and I'm not confident that I'm entirely immune to him. We have so much in common, such a good rapport, but we fall into an emotional pattern over and over, so I feel best limiting it to email or seeing him only once every few years in a large group. I hadn't felt vulnerable to him in many years but recently he wanted to help me while I was under so much stress when my sister was ill, and it kinda got to me, because I so needed help and there he was, sincerely caring. For that reason, I said no, because it made me feel vulnerable to the old feelings again, and we have been doing just fine as friends. I just can't go there.

I still have a handful of friends, one from high school, but most that I met in my twenties working in record stores. I guess it's easier to keep friends as you grow older when they live in different towns, but anyway I'm very grateful to good old loyal friends and can't imagine life without them, though I've already lost some who died young.

Spend time with people who love and respect you and cut the others loose.



12/24/2011 4:43:41 PM
Hm... I quess living abroad for 16 years forced me to make new friends and to assume this is what it is! I think my life-long friends started since I was 19, and another one started last year :-)
DDA
12/28/2011 7:02:18 AM
More great stories, Lola. Now, about that book you are going to write?
12/28/2011 4:37:12 PM
It's written. It just needs a ruthless editor and for some people to croak first. hah. Just so you know, I can write personal things here anonymously that I can't write on my own blog without causing ripples. I started sharing parts of my journal on MySpace before it died, but I could never bring myself to post the stuff about people I still may have to deal with!
DDA
1/5/2012 11:48:23 PM
Well, Lola, my thoughts here: Feel free to cause all the ripples you wish, even if it is anonymous, makes for good stories for all of us to learn from.
1/6/2012 11:16:22 AM
Aww, thank you. The problem is most of my old local crowd would know who everyone was, even with name changing, and a couple of them have rewritten history in their heads. Then there's one that I have a fragile relationship with, and he was the cause of so much of my hurt over time and my big depression, and I think it would kill what's left of the friendship if I wrote honestly about what his actions did to me, and I'd feel bad about that because I realize a lot of what he did was out of naivety and resentment because we had so much water under the bridge. And there's also a chance it might just get him really stirred up and start it all back up again, and he's married with children. I hate to rock the boat, but there's none of them I can leave out because it's a tangled vine with interconnections. I don't think there's any chance of him dying anytime soon. He hasn't even gone bald yet. Sigh.
DDA
1/10/2012 5:02:21 PM
Lol. Well, ok, I guess you will have to hang on a little longer. But………make sure I get to do a blurb for the cover. :)
1/10/2012 6:06:03 PM
That would be awesome! I would want one from you, one from a criminal profiler, and one from a rocker. You could all three attest the author is psycho, which would greatly enhance sales....
1/11/2012 12:04:32 PM
Are you, Lola? Is this why we like each other? ;-)
1/14/2012 5:28:12 AM
Hi Tina,
Just a very short message to you. True friends are ones that encourage, support, listens etc. They are the ones you can laugh with, cry with, have fun with, speak honestly with and love you for exactly who you are.

Sounds like these women do exactly the opposite so its time to find other friends Tina.

Sonja
DDA
1/14/2012 11:17:54 AM
Done!
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